Leftist: You Libertarians are blinded by your dogmatic
ideology. Surely no sane person could object to government product safety
regulations! Without them, we’d be conned into buying putrid meat and toxic
house paint!
Brian: Do you trust the government to keep you safe from
dangerous products?
Leftist: Sure, for the most part.
Brian: Why do you trust them to do this?
Leftist: Well, they’ve done a pretty good job of it so far!
They do make some mistakes sometimes, but no one’s perfect.
Brian: So you trust them because of their pretty good
track-record in the past, is that right? You don’t just trust them because
they’re the government?
Leftist: I trust them because of their past track-record.
Brian: Ok. Then would you also trust an organization that
wasn’t a government to protect you from unsafe products, if that organization
had a good reputation and had built up a good track-record of doing so in the
past?
Leftist: I guess… But the question seems irrelevant: what
organization other than a government could protect me from unsafe products?
Brian: A private organization that evaluated products for
safety and then either approved the product or not. You could then choose to
only buy products that had received approval from this organization, or a
similar one, and you would be protected by them.
Leftist: But how would such an organization fund its
activities? And what would ensure that product manufacturers allowed the
organization to conduct its evaluation? What if the manufacturer prevented the
organization from accessing its facilities? This would prevent a thorough
safety evaluation from being done.
Brian: The product manufacturers would invite such
organizations to evaluate their products, and would probably even pay the
organization to conduct such an evaluation. That’s how such organizations would
get both funding and access.
Leftist: What? Why would manufacturers want to do such a
thing?
Brian: Because of discerning consumers such as yourself who
want to be protected from unsafe products! Manufacturers would know that if
they wanted to be able to effectively sell their products to safety-conscious
consumers such as yourself, their product would need to be certified by a
trusted, reputable product safety auditing firm. Or, it might be large
retailers who demanded such a certification because they only wanted to sell
safe products in their stores, in order to maintain their good reputation. For
instance, even now with the government food inspectors in place, the Loblaw
grocery store chain employs private food inspection firms to audit the facilities
and practices of food suppliers.
Leftist: Ok, but if the product manufacturers themselves are
paying for the safety evaluation, won’t their be pressure put on the safety
inspectors to provide a favorable evaluation, even if one is not warranted, in
order to satisfy their paying client?
Brian: Perhaps. But if the safety organization wanted to
protect its most valuable business asset, it’s good reputation and
track-record, than they would almost certainly resist that pressure in the vast
majority of cases. Doing so would be in the best interests of their
organization.
Leftist: I don’t know… Seems like a situation that would
result in a lot of shenanigans.
Brian: Students pay to take university courses, do they not?
Leftist: Um, yeah… How is this relevant?
Brian: Students are also graded in university courses based
on the work they do and the tests they write. Can students pay to both take a
university course and to guarantee themselves a high mark in that course
without doing the course work or writing the tests?
Leftist: Not unless the ‘university’ or the professor are
very shady. Although, it is easier to get higher grades at some universities
than it is at others.
Brian: And that’s something that an astute ‘consumer’ of the
university credential, the potential employer of the graduate, will take into
account when evaluating the meaning of that credential and those grades. The
same applies to product safety. Some organizations will have higher standards
for approval than others, but that’s something that an astute consumer or
retailer will be aware of when making their decision. But an organization whose
approval was just completely for sale to any company willing to pay the price
would be as reputable as the ‘very shady’ university, and its credential would
be worth as much in the eyes of the consumers.
Leftist: Ok, I’m beginning to see your point. But it all
still seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Why not just stick with the
government system, where the inspectors do not receive their funding from the
people they are inspecting at all?
Brian: Have you ever heard of something called a ‘revolving
door arrangement’?
Leftist: I’ve heard the term, but I’m not sure exactly what
it means.
Brian: It refers to the ‘revolving door’ of employment
between large companies and the government agencies that regulate them. Large
companies like hiring former officials of the relevant regulatory agency so
that they can know the ins and outs of and be on the good side of that agency.
The regulatory agencies like hiring people from large companies in the industry
because of their knowledge of the industry and connections within the industry.
Officials in the agency might look forward to holding a lucrative position in
that large company in the future, while other officials who used to work for
that company might look favorably on their former workplace. Either way, it is
likely that such officials will be biased in favor of the large company in
question, and this will affect policy-making. Notable revolving door
arrangements exist in the US between Goldman Sachs and the Securities Exchange
Commission, and between Monsanto and the Food and Drug Administration, among
others.
Leftist: Ah, yes, I am aware that these kinds of corrupt
practices go on. What is required is that the citizens scrutinize these
agencies more closely, in order to prevent these things from getting out of
hand.
Brian: Ok. But rather than scrutinize and try to affect
government agencies in your capacity as a democratic voter, couldn’t you just
as easily, if not more easily, scrutinize and try to affect private safety
organizations in your capacity as a consumer or consumer advocate?
Leftist: Well, I suppose you could. But why go through all
the trouble to replace the government system that we have with an almost
identical private system? I suspect that the only reason you want to do so is
in order to maintain the purity of your libertarian ideology.
Brian: Because I have reason to believe that the private
system will outperform the government system. Government safety agencies have a
tendency to over-regulate, and because they have a coercive monopoly, there is
no way to escape this over-regulation.
Leftist: Over-regulate? Who says?
Brian: It’s just a function of the way that the incentives
are lined up. If a government over-zealously passes safety regulations that
aren’t really worth the cost, the result is that some consumers and some
businesses are annoyed. If a government fails to pass safety regulations that
are worth the cost though, and someone is injured by a dangerous product as a
result, there will be a big scandal. Annoyance is unlikely to translate into
too many lost votes come election time, whereas a serious safety scandal could
well be a significant factor in an election. As a result, the political masters
of the safety agencies will want them to lean on the side of caution, thus
producing a tendency to over-regulate. Similarly, annoyance is unlikely to
result in safety bureaucrats losing their jobs, whereas a serious scandal
probably would, thereby reinforcing the tendency to over-regulate.
Leftist: True, but you forget that politicians are reliant on
the support and donations of big companies, whose ‘annoyance’ could therefore
lead to serious problems in an election. And, for the bureaucrats themselves,
there’s the ‘revolving door arrangement’ we were just talking about, which will
mean that the safety bureaucrats won’t want to annoy the big companies in the
industry through over-regulation. These will result in a countervailing
tendency towards under-regulation.
Brian: Very astute of you! What you say is true. But this
tendency to under-regulate that you described only applies to the activities of
the companies with significant political clout, whereas the tendency to
over-regulate that I described applies generally. The result is that while
these tendencies may approximately balance one another out when it comes to
regulating the activities of large companies with political clout, the
activities of companies without political clout, especially smaller ones, will
still tend to be over-regulated. In addition, this state of affairs will result
in an artificial advantage accruing to large companies with political clout at
the expense of their competition, which will result in an unwelcome distortion
of the market. Thus, what you say, while true, hardly makes the case for the
desirability of monopolistic government regulation.
Leftist: Ok, but where safety is concerned, over-regulation
is much better than under-regulation, so I don’t see anything wrong with this
incentive structure.
Brian: And I’m sure other people who are particularly
cautious would agree with you, whereas others might not. But here’s the thing:
in a free-market system of safety certification, you and the cautious people
could have your preference satisfied, while the less cautious people could also
have their preferences satisfied! You would only buy products approved by a
very zealous and rigorous organization, and would be willing to pay for the privilege.
Less cautious people might choose to buy cheaper products that were only
approved by a less zealous and rigorous organization. In a monopolistic
government system, the only safety versus utility/price trade-offs allowed are those
approved by the regulators. In a free-market system, people can decide on their
own desired safety versus utility/price trade-offs, and trust the certification
organization whose risk tolerance is closest to their own. In addition,
competition between the certification organizations will result in improvements
in their service offerings, something that is lacking in the monopolistic
government system.
Leftist: Fine, but this is all still
very theoretical. Do you have a concrete example of government over-regulation?
Brian: I think the case of raw milk
is a good example. Many western governments do not allow the commercial sale of
raw milk, but require that it be pasteurised first. Pasteurised milk keeps
longer and is generally safer to drink than raw milk; but advocates of raw milk
say that milk tastes better and is more nutritious when raw. If proper safety
precautions are taken and the milk is consumed in a timely fashion, raw milk
can be safe as well. There are multiple possible explanations for the
governments’ ban on raw milk. It could just be a classic case of
over-regulation: where the government doesn’t want to be caught in a safety
scandal by allowing the sale of a potentially dangerous drink. Or, it could be
related to the political clout of the big dairy companies who hold major market
share in the pasteurized milk market, whereas raw milk is generally the
province of smaller dairy organizations. Perhaps both explanations are
partially true.
Leftist: Or, it could be that banning
raw milk is just good food safety policy!
Brian: Perhaps for many people it is,
but obviously the raw milk advocates disagree. On a free-market for food safety
certification, both groups could have their way without conflict. Perhaps raw
milk wouldn’t be approved by any of the very zealous food safety organizations,
and safety conscious people would avoid it as a result. But perhaps more
accommodating food safety organizations would approve certain brands of raw
milk, and then raw milk advocates could buy these brands. There is no sense
forcing a one-size-fits-all policy on everyone when a more flexible approach
can result in more people having their own ways.
Leftist: Well, I’m still a bit wary
of the whole private safety regulation idea, but I think I do have a bit more
respect for the libertarian position on the issue now.
Brian: I wouldn’t dare expect
anything more. Thank you!
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